Comments on: What Are Lifestyles Like In A Different Society? http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/ Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:23:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: mario niemann http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-789 mario niemann Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:21:50 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-789 Your father needs a task,perhaps need to get an adjucation in social work,in the arts,learn to play a musicinstrument,go back to university,its never to late working out subjektiv talents,help other people,rather to trink the frustration of boredness away with alkohol.Alkohol should be fun under friends,but not a burdon.<a href="#comment-614" rel="nofollow">@Eva </a> Your father needs a task,perhaps need to get an adjucation in social work,in the arts,learn to play a musicinstrument,go back to university,its never to late working out subjektiv talents,help other people,rather to trink the frustration of boredness away with alkohol.Alkohol should be fun under friends,but not a burdon.@Eva

]]> By: mario niemann http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-788 mario niemann Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:04:30 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-788 <a href="#comment-614" rel="nofollow">@Eva </a> Your father and friends have financial(responsebilities to your neighbor who has needs,lives in great scarcitie) resources,and they could help fighting against homelesness,ask your dead to bay houses where people can sleep,live,have a familie,to have anove food,pay for scools so they can be aducated in sience ore arts.Ore help to finance titalwaveprojects,windmillenergie,solartechnologie,clean water projekts ,free energie projects,ore there are people in your neighborhood cant pay the dendist bill,I had to pay for a rootcanal $ 1500,- and it was for me a 2 month labor to pay this bill,you could helped me straight out of this situation,there are a lot poor people along in the rich western countries,encourage your father to help them.Ore help people fighting for their human rights in courts ,help them to pay there expensive attorney fees (many people be innocent and charched with crimes even there did not committet and have to serve a prison sentence,because they couldn`t afford a attorney to fight for there rights).Ore right now people tortured in konzentation camps in north korea ,born babys be kicked to death from KZ kamp supervisors.But around your neighborhood is some body in need,some people are happy if you invite them for a meal in a restaurant.And alcohol like other drugs,use it if you have fun along with other people,if the fun stops,stop the consum of drug,just consume drugs responsible,and be not dangerous for the puplic (dont drink and drive,you can kill a hol family in a fan,car,truck)Its sad,I saw many people killed in occidents,when I was a interstate trucker for covinent transportation,the memories are horrible. @Eva
Your father and friends have financial(responsebilities to your neighbor who has needs,lives in great scarcitie) resources,and they could help fighting against homelesness,ask your dead to bay houses where people can sleep,live,have a familie,to have anove food,pay for scools so they can be aducated in sience ore arts.Ore help to finance titalwaveprojects,windmillenergie,solartechnologie,clean water projekts ,free energie projects,ore there are people in your neighborhood cant pay the dendist bill,I had to pay for a rootcanal $ 1500,- and it was for me a 2 month labor to pay this bill,you could helped me straight out of this situation,there are a lot poor people along in the rich western countries,encourage your father to help them.Ore help people fighting for their human rights in courts ,help them to pay there expensive attorney fees (many people be innocent and charched with crimes even there did not committet and have to serve a prison sentence,because they couldn`t afford a attorney to fight for there rights).Ore right now people tortured in konzentation camps in north korea ,born babys be kicked to death from KZ kamp supervisors.But around your neighborhood is some body in need,some people are happy if you invite them for a meal in a restaurant.And alcohol like other drugs,use it if you have fun along with other people,if the fun stops,stop the consum of drug,just consume drugs responsible,and be not dangerous for the puplic (dont drink and drive,you can kill a hol family in a fan,car,truck)Its sad,I saw many people killed in occidents,when I was a interstate trucker for covinent transportation,the memories are horrible.

]]> By: mario niemann http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-787 mario niemann Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:24:19 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-787 I get up in the morning,first think I do! take my guitar and play music from bach,dowland,carcassi,capsberger,tarrega,villa lobos,play improvisations,compose music,play jazzimprovisation,go to a friend,make a a blues session,I love this kind of live and fresco`s ideas reaching above the goal of freedom,nothing goes above a creative live as artists are doing,ore people challanging their personalities with sports,sciences,teachers,socialworkers,(social work shouldnt replaced with machines).I am concerned about warlords there wonna take our pease away, than would be others people and my creative live be over,because those people very destuctive.I like frescos idea to turn religions into philosophie,wapons of massdistraction into wapons they produces food,housing,free adjucation,using renewable energie,no nuklear plants ore waste !traveling thru space and time?It would satisfy every creature on earth.I like to love living in a free spirited world with all there colors and beautiful people and creatures there inhabiting it with love,peace and happiness. I get up in the morning,first think I do! take my guitar and play music from bach,dowland,carcassi,capsberger,tarrega,villa lobos,play improvisations,compose music,play jazzimprovisation,go to a friend,make a
a blues session,I love this kind of live and fresco`s ideas reaching above the goal of freedom,nothing goes above a creative live as artists are doing,ore people challanging their personalities with sports,sciences,teachers,socialworkers,(social work shouldnt replaced with machines).I am concerned about warlords there wonna take our pease away, than would be others people and my creative live be over,because those people very destuctive.I like frescos idea to turn religions into philosophie,wapons of massdistraction into wapons they produces food,housing,free adjucation,using renewable energie,no nuklear plants ore waste !traveling thru space and time?It would satisfy every creature on earth.I like to love living in a free spirited world with all there colors and beautiful people and creatures there inhabiting it with love,peace and happiness.

]]> By: liveNpeace http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-644 liveNpeace Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:35:52 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-644 I am a 50 year old Canadian who has volunteered in my community coaching hockey, baseball and soccer, as well as administrating a winter sports club. I've given of myself and have dedicated 30+ years of my furtile life contributing to this society we call civilized. Well it has been more like a prison term that has included 25 years employed as a millhand that has been responsible (or lack of it)ruptured three discs in my lower back, nearly amputated my left forearm leaving me with a six inch plate and six screws for life in the radius bone, and also reduced my hearing by 30%. Thank God I was smart enough to contribute to a pension plan for 27 years, which the financial system's manipulated ploy of 2009 has resulted in losses amounting to 30%+. In retrospect what seems to have been a comfortable rut, was indeed a term of slavery followed by current unemployment much like a prison term. The monetary system does not provide for the debt that it leaves us in when our employer closes its' doors. Debt that was based on your income. It's just another trapdoor in this hellhole. I am tired, tattered and torn, left feeling now not so furtile. I want to get off this ride, I want off this hamster wheel. I am now honestly and openly willing to take the value of my pension plan and sign it over to the Venus Project in exchange for living in such a humaine community where I could maintain the civil properties doing such tasks as cutting grass, tending to gardens and generally living out the remainder of my life in peace, without stress and slavery. And in the end would much more prefer having a Viking funeral rather than a money grab funeral. I believe that the Venus Project's vision will indeed occur, but it will happen only when the life of the current system has dried up like a prune. It is however our responsibility now to begin developing and communicating this message of humanity unselfishly to the entire world so that when the prune meets its destiny, our system will be in motion and mankind will see it as the logical method that has survived. I am a 50 year old Canadian who has volunteered in my community coaching hockey, baseball and soccer, as well as administrating a winter sports club. I’ve given of myself and have dedicated 30+ years of my furtile life contributing to this society we call civilized. Well it has been more like a prison term that has included 25 years employed as a millhand that has been responsible (or lack of it)ruptured three discs in my lower back, nearly amputated my left forearm leaving me with a six inch plate and six screws for life in the radius bone, and also reduced my hearing by 30%. Thank God I was smart enough to contribute to a pension plan for 27 years, which the financial system’s manipulated ploy of 2009 has resulted in losses amounting to 30%+. In retrospect what seems to have been a comfortable rut, was indeed a term of slavery followed by current unemployment much like a prison term. The monetary system does not provide for the debt that it leaves us in when our employer closes its’ doors. Debt that was based on your income. It’s just another trapdoor in this hellhole. I am tired, tattered and torn, left feeling now not so furtile. I want to get off this ride, I want off this hamster wheel.

I am now honestly and openly willing to take the value of my pension plan and sign it over to the Venus Project in exchange for living in such a humaine community where I could maintain the civil properties doing such tasks as cutting grass, tending to gardens and generally living out the remainder of my life in peace, without stress and slavery.
And in the end would much more prefer having a Viking funeral rather than a money grab funeral.

I believe that the Venus Project’s vision will indeed occur, but it will happen only when the life of the current system has dried up like a prune.

It is however our responsibility now to begin developing and communicating this message of humanity unselfishly to the entire world so that when the prune meets its destiny, our system will be in motion and mankind will see it as the logical method that has survived.

]]> By: Andre Dang http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-632 Andre Dang Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:47:19 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-632 This mean we are building a new world/society/nation/civilization. This Idea is very nice perhaps it is the ideal Eden on earth. But is it really practical? resources are scared there is billions of human on earth. let pretend we have enough resourses where wuold this society/nation wuold locate. U.S.A can't bring herself transform into a new world just like that nor any of other countries around the globe. we need new land to make a fresh start and uninterfering from others nations such invasions and plundering.Mans are greeds and selfish. To bring the idea into practice we need to come together those people that are really interested and build a new society/nation. Well it just a thought. don't know if it really helps much..you all have a great day This mean we are building a new world/society/nation/civilization. This Idea is very nice perhaps it is the ideal Eden on earth. But is it really practical? resources are scared there is billions of human on earth. let pretend we have enough resourses where wuold this society/nation wuold locate. U.S.A can’t bring herself transform into a new world just like that nor any of other countries around the globe. we need new land to make a fresh start and uninterfering from others nations such invasions and plundering.Mans are greeds and selfish. To bring the idea into practice we need to come together those people that are really interested and build a new society/nation. Well it just a thought. don’t know if it really helps much..you all have a great day

]]> By: Julianna Fiumara http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-625 Julianna Fiumara Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:31:16 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-625 <a href="#comment-100" rel="nofollow">@iv</a> What do you think would happen in a world where "The 7 Tenets" were implemented? 1.) The abolition of the spoken and written word. 2.) The new emergence of language; Telepathy and Empathy<--------(empathy being a pre-requisite in order to experience telepathy). 3.) There is no personal property except your body and what is on your body. 4.) There is no such thing as a border except for #3 above. 5.) Attuning with the 'larger context' is practiced daily (ie, meditation,prayer, or other) 6.) To find your purpose is the highest form of good. 7.) Create Through telepathy symbiotic energies will always naturally come together so that technological advancements will still procure as well as basic human needs. We must trust that we do not need the spoken word in order to accomplish things. The spoken word mainly serves as an instrument of power and persuasion through separate identity creation. It is not necessary I believe, though my knowledge is limited. The consequence of "The 7 Tenets" is non-dualism. Non-dualism may create a new set of problems that I would really like to explore with you. If you would like to explore the implications of non-dualism, both it's positive and negative impacts, I would love to hear some replies. Thanks. @iv
What do you think would happen in a world where “The 7 Tenets” were implemented? 1.) The abolition of the spoken and written word. 2.) The new emergence of language; Telepathy and Empathy<——–(empathy being a pre-requisite in order to experience telepathy). 3.) There is no personal property except your body and what is on your body. 4.) There is no such thing as a border except for #3 above. 5.) Attuning with the ‘larger context’ is practiced daily (ie, meditation,prayer, or other) 6.) To find your purpose is the highest form of good. 7.) Create

Through telepathy symbiotic energies will always naturally come together so that technological advancements will still procure as well as basic human needs. We must trust that we do not need the spoken word in order to accomplish things. The spoken word mainly serves as an instrument of power and persuasion through separate identity creation. It is not necessary I believe, though my knowledge is limited. The consequence of “The 7 Tenets” is non-dualism. Non-dualism may create a new set of problems that I would really like to explore with you. If you would like to explore the implications of non-dualism, both it’s positive and negative impacts, I would love to hear some replies. Thanks.

]]> By: Charles Campbell http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-620 Charles Campbell Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:07:09 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-620 With the focus on education, technology, and a resource based economy we as the human race will flourish. With the lack of a monetary system to hold back the progress of technology and new far more effective sources of energy (solar energy, tidal energy, wave energy, wind energy, most important geothermal energy) human life will make a drastic well deserved and a long overdue evolution. With the lack of currency on the plant earth, breaking these chains of debt freeing ourselves to expand our minds and our greatest potentials. I see only a greater incentive for human beings to progress at an accelerated pace creating a new era in every aspect of technology's and science witch in turn will change life on earth for the greater good. With the focus on education, technology, and a resource based economy we as the human race will flourish. With the lack of a monetary system to hold back the progress of technology and new far more effective sources of energy (solar energy, tidal energy, wave energy, wind energy, most important geothermal energy) human life will make a drastic well deserved and a long overdue evolution. With the lack of currency on the plant earth, breaking these chains of debt freeing ourselves to expand our minds and our greatest potentials. I see only a greater incentive for human beings to progress at an accelerated pace creating a new era in every aspect of technology’s and science witch in turn will change life on earth for the greater good.

]]> By: Eva http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-614 Eva Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:03:50 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-614 I hate to be skeptical and personally I'm absolutely convinced I could live in a resourced based society as described here but I can't help but wondering if this would work for everyone mostly because of what I see in my very close environment. My dad is a personal investor and doesn't have a 'real' job and lots of free time and money to do whatever he would like to do. I think most of you here, like me, could think of hundreds of different ways to spend our time that is why I found it very hard to understand that my dad was very close to a depression because he didn't know how to spend his time. He loves reading books and listening to music but not the whole day. He doesn't really enjoy travelling, for sure not outside western/northern Europe, he just loves skiing trips so that's what he does about 4 times every winter but then, skiing is not a very environmental friendly hobby. I'm from Holland and almost everyone there who has some money loves to go skiing and if you'd asked what they would love to do most if they wouldn't need money to do it, a lot of people would answer they would go skiing more often but we couldn't all go skiing all winter, could we? Imagine the burden on the environment. He and his friends all have good jobs and don't have to worry about any bills or debts and my dad was telling me the other day how some of his friends dislike vacations because they don't know how to spend them, what to do. Most of their free time they spend together drinking beer, after skiing their favorite way to pass time but not a very constructive hobby either I guess.. Does anybody have a explanation for that behavior? And how could/would this be different in a resource based society? How to deal with things like alcoholism? People drink for lots of different reasons, often to forget about their problems but not always. Sometimes people just feel more self confident and don't even notice how their behavior becomes very disturbing. How would we deal with that? Would alcohol be freely available anyways? Looking forward to reading your thoughts on these matters. I hate to be skeptical and personally I’m absolutely convinced I could live in a resourced based society as described here but I can’t help but wondering if this would work for everyone mostly because of what I see in my very close environment.
My dad is a personal investor and doesn’t have a ‘real’ job and lots of free time and money to do whatever he would like to do.
I think most of you here, like me, could think of hundreds of different ways to spend our time that is why I found it very hard to understand that my dad was very close to a depression because he didn’t know how to spend his time.
He loves reading books and listening to music but not the whole day. He doesn’t really enjoy travelling, for sure not outside western/northern Europe, he just loves skiing trips so that’s what he does about 4 times every winter but then, skiing is not a very environmental friendly hobby. I’m from Holland and almost everyone there who has some money loves to go skiing and if you’d asked what they would love to do most if they wouldn’t need money to do it, a lot of people would answer they would go skiing more often but we couldn’t all go skiing all winter, could we? Imagine the burden on the environment.
He and his friends all have good jobs and don’t have to worry about any bills or debts and my dad was telling me the other day how some of his friends dislike vacations because they don’t know how to spend them, what to do. Most of their free time they spend together drinking beer, after skiing their favorite way to pass time but not a very constructive hobby either I guess..
Does anybody have a explanation for that behavior? And how could/would this be different in a resource based society?
How to deal with things like alcoholism? People drink for lots of different reasons, often to forget about their problems but not always. Sometimes people just feel more self confident and don’t even notice how their behavior becomes very disturbing. How would we deal with that?
Would alcohol be freely available anyways?
Looking forward to reading your thoughts on these matters.

]]> By: Salem http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-611 Salem Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:33:14 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-611 of course that would be a great way of living and it's the perfect solution for everything i think BUT those people outside they are not into sitting around reading books doing something creative or studying and they never have done it in their entire lifes! I think this project has to get more detailed becouse everything I read about it is the same in one way it's all about design design design no war no war no war studying universitys no money no work to those people out there this just sounds like a lazy-hippy-asotial-student-stoner-club. Please correct me if I am wrong becouse I am totaly new in here, first totaly fascinated by the idea then a bit disapointed becouse i havent found anything but DESIGNS DESIGNS flyers and movies and than i find out that it all started somewere between the 60s and the 70s?? WE NEED MORE A LOT MORE!!!! with designs we are going to impress them first and then they will get ony talking and nearly no proof?? they will get bored give you a lough call you a hippy and leave the show! WE NEED THEM ALL TO CONVINCE THE WORLD! as i said still pretty uninformed becouse i can't find anything more on the net! Greets of course that would be a great way of living and it’s the perfect solution for everything i think BUT those people outside they are not into sitting around reading books doing something creative or studying and they never have done it in their entire lifes! I think this project has to get more detailed becouse everything I read about it is the same in one way it’s all about design design design no war no war no war studying universitys no money no work to those people out there this just sounds like a lazy-hippy-asotial-student-stoner-club. Please correct me if I am wrong becouse I am totaly new in here, first totaly fascinated by the idea then a bit disapointed becouse i havent found anything but DESIGNS DESIGNS flyers and movies and than i find out that it all started somewere between the 60s and the 70s?? WE NEED MORE A LOT MORE!!!! with designs we are going to impress them first and then they will get ony talking and nearly no proof?? they will get bored give you a lough call you a hippy and leave the show! WE NEED THEM ALL TO CONVINCE THE WORLD!

as i said still pretty uninformed becouse i can’t find anything more on the net!

Greets

]]> By: simon http://www2.thevenusproject.com/blog/2009/04/what-are-lifestyles-like-in-a-different-society/comment-page-2/#comment-603 simon Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:06:24 +0000 http://thevenusproject.com/blog/?p=53#comment-603 Just a question tat has been bugging me: in a resource based economy you've done away with the money, and I think we can all see the advantages there. But it in't clear howresources are allocated. Abolishing money also abolishes a medium of exchange and with it a method, however injust and inefficient of, allocating/distributing resources. So, to take one posters example how would one get hold of the material needed to make our new designer clothes? Simply basing an economy on resources rather than money (laudable, of course, as this tkaes out a whole swathe of 'vampires' such as advertisers, bankers, etc, making things less costly and more valueable in themselves and reducing to a limited extent the level of scaricty) doesn't resolve the fundamnetal problem of scarcity. Some people will have more cotton or wool or nylon or whatever than others. HOw would scarce rsources NOT lead to one form or other of commercialism and with that, war, social exclusion, envy, etc. Just a question tat has been bugging me: in a resource based economy you’ve done away with the money, and I think we can all see the advantages there. But it in’t clear howresources are allocated. Abolishing money also abolishes a medium of exchange and with it a method, however injust and inefficient of, allocating/distributing resources. So, to take one posters example how would one get hold of the material needed to make our new designer clothes? Simply basing an economy on resources rather than money (laudable, of course, as this tkaes out a whole swathe of ‘vampires’ such as advertisers, bankers, etc, making things less costly and more valueable in themselves and reducing to a limited extent the level of scaricty) doesn’t resolve the fundamnetal problem of scarcity. Some people will have more cotton or wool or nylon or whatever than others. HOw would scarce rsources NOT lead to one form or other of commercialism and with that, war, social exclusion, envy, etc.

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