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“Truly free people do not need to be told they are free”

February 20th, 2010

Credits: Russia Today

“War is the supreme failure of bridging the differences between nations,” according to the creator of a social model called “the Venus Project” – American futurist and inventor Jacque Fresco.

Fresco also thinks a resource-based economy is the key factor to preserving world peace.

“Democracy is a con game, it is a word invented to outplay people, to make them accept a given institution. All institutions sing ‘we are free’. The minute you hear ‘freedom’ or ‘democracy’ – watch out, because in a truly free nation, no one has to tell you that you’re free,” Fresco said.

He believes “It is not that people are good or bad, they are raised in an aberrant or twisted environment.”

“Social change cannot come above the intellect,” said Fresco answering a question about the current economic crisis in the US, “it comes about by people suffering. And the more people are related to that, the more they lose respect for an existing government. They will seek another direction. If there are too many people who seek a new direction, then the existing government calls upon the army and police to manage society – that is called fascism.”

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  1. February 21st, 2010 at 18:42 | #1

    Wow! Nice exposure in RT! It seems that the reporter was a big fan of The Venus Project. :) Very well rehearsed questions (and of course answers).

    Love,

    Tomi

  2. hariati sulaiman
    February 23rd, 2010 at 17:29 | #2

    just to add- the word algebra was derived from ‘ilm al jabr wa’l muqabalah’ which means ‘the science of reduction and cancellation’.

    regards

  3. Jared Cravy
    March 4th, 2010 at 21:05 | #3

    The Iron law of oligarchy states that ANY system that is set up will eventually be taken over by a small, greedy elite. How do you respond to this Jacque?!

  4. Sven Ovall
    March 11th, 2010 at 16:12 | #4

    @Jared Cravy Well who would be greedy when everything is made available? What would there be to be greedy for?

  5. Clint Rand
    March 12th, 2010 at 08:23 | #5

    Mr.Jacque is entirely right, the whole ‘picture’ of NOWADAYS is correct and the whole thing about NEW COMING SOCIETY IS ALSO RIGHT. I would like to add that there is a ‘higher’ knowledge – that is present all around us – and that some people like Jacque and some I know HAVE AN OPEN PART OF OUR BRAINS and ‘SENSORS’ – to realize and see a ‘WIDER PICTURE’ ‘from above’. I say this: What is your religion? – Go to the Moon and give me an answer. Think this way, please YOU – HUMAN: If you were an alien, just arriving to this planet and see how we ‘have’ civilization, you would say wow, not bad. And than, you would start NOT UNDERSTANDING why is someone doing some ‘free slavery’ things, would ask yourself ‘what is that ”’money”’ and why everyone has ‘free’ given their life time just to ‘live’ – making that ”money”. What is the politics and why is it there? Why do you believe in some ‘other dimension’ things and at the same time – create icons, pictures, symbols of humans and worship those – while hating the others who worship other statue??? Than you would, like an alien – looking forward to go away from this beautiful – but inhabit with extreemly dull kind – the humans – that go against each others interest for the sake of ‘profit’, and solo-ego (short hold) satisfaction.
    BE AN ALIEN AND BECAME A CRITIC OF YOUR OWN KIND – AND THE SYSTEM YOU LIVE IN. (in order to do so, you should be wold educated, meeting variety of systems of countries, have friends of many nationalities and ”’religions”’, and than see that you are only one – THE HUMAN WITH ONE HOME – PLANET EARTH. I’ve got concrete step-by-step method how to act today- WE MUST USE THE ”’DEMOCRATIC”’ SYSTEM AND ”’RELIGIOUS”’ AND TURN THEIR OWN ‘RULES’ IN FAVOR TO OUR COMMON GOAL – alienation of ‘profit/money’ economy/system – LET’S GROW IN HUGE NUMBER AND GET ELECTED – AND THAT INTRODUCE (as a first step) ELECTRONIC or DIGITAL ‘MONEY’ – as a ‘passing’ system – TRANSFORM THE ‘PRESIDENTIAL’ AND THE ‘SENATE’ PRACTICES INTO ‘SEVEN’S’ (small group of highly capable people WITHOUT the ‘cult of individual’ – that will originate variety of sectors – and that the humanity would have no more the PYRAMID SYSTEMS, nor presidential countries, nor hierarchy orders – but knowledge, respect, every-man is the self-policing individual AND ABOVE ALL – EVERYONE IS DOING THEIR ‘TALENTED’ JOB, THE IDEAL JOB – since the day we were born – there should be SYSTEM that ‘observe and direct’ us into the best possible ‘career’ of our NATURAL TALENT – to become a ’specialist’ in our NATURAL FIELD OF INTEREST and ‘return’ to our humanity the best we can – and the ‘humanity’ provide us with all luxurious and wanted needs we can every dream of. Please – contact me for further, in depth detail of the TRUE MOTIVATION AND HAPPINESS OF OUR LIFE – THE IDEAL JOB, SOCIETY THAT PROVIDE US WITH EVERYTHING AND WE GIVE BACK TO IT THE ‘FRUIT’ OF OUR NATURAL TALENTS’ – WHICH IS THE HIGHEST POINT OF HUMAN SELF-SATISFACTION = BEING PRODUCTIVE, EVERYDAY SELF-GROW, and no money and profit can ever produce that achievement. LET US MOVE TODAY – ORGANIZE IN ONE BODY, COME TO POWER THROUGH DEMOCRATIC PRESENT SYSTEM – AND LIFT THE GROUNDS FOR ‘VENUS’ PROJECT = THE HUMANIZM – NEW HUMAN ECONOMIC SYSTEM. rclint70@yahoo.com

  6. Clint Rand
    March 12th, 2010 at 09:33 | #6

    Dear readers, I have moved from London to Belgrade (Serbia) in order to do unimagined – to find people, awake their believes in the ‘HUMAN MOVEMENT’ (the same as theZeitgeistmovement – the same goals, the same doctrine, the same ideas – with CONCRETE PRESENT TASKS) and with great number of us – followers USE THE EXISTING DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM ELECTIONS; Organize into a ”political” party (the Pokret Coveka – the Movement of a Human), spread the idea and go to elections – expect to win. WIN!!! AND THAN – FIRST STEP INTO TRANSFORMATION OF THE MARKET ECONOMY SYSTEM TOWARDS ‘MIND or RESOURCE ECONOMY’: TRANSFORMATION OF THE PRESIDENTIAL AND THE GOVERNING MECHANISM. Introduce ‘SECTORS’ OF ‘GOVERNMENTS’ TO GOVERN THE WHOLE POPULATION FROM ITS NATURAL CORE. One of the first to establish is the HEALTH SECTOR that is the closest to every human being – that will get the task No 1 – methodically research talents in EVERY HUMAN BEING – from the age of 3 onwards, introduce in a year time THE DIGITAL MONETARY SYSTEM (as a transit ‘payment’ system – ‘killing instantly the gray and black economies – drugs, prostitution, corruption and many ‘inhuman’ activities), and create SECTORS – capable to care for its citizens – and as a return – the citizens will DO THE BEST THEY CAN – giving their best in activities, employing their own talents and multi-talents as a ‘give back to our society’. LET US DO THE SAME IN ALL OUR PRESENT COUNTRIES – AND ONCE ON ”POWER”’ LET US UNITE AND ELIMINATE THE MONETARY SYSTEM, EVER MORE FASCIST BRAINLESS ‘USA’ ‘DEMOnCReATIC’ SYSTEM, and finally start LIVING LIVES WE DESERVE – THE LIVES OF OUR FULL EXTENT – healthy lives with knowledge, IDEAL WORK, IDEAL ACTIVITIES (ideal work is this: you work you are naturally the best in, it is short hours, you choose the length of time you want to work, you dictate your own time – you are FREE – you control your own self – and expecting you to be a ‘higher’ human being – you will have full enjoyment of ‘giving yourself in full’ – for yourself and your own PLANET.)
    My dear reader, my human fellow – THINK THIS WAY; I WILL WORK THE BEST OF MY INTEREST JOB (not being motivated for the money or working as a ‘free-slave for”’living”’- but for the LOVE AND JOY OF BEING ACTIVE AND 100% USEFUL to your/mine/hers/his = our world, your=our family, your=our friends, your=our surrounding, your=our gorgeous PLANET), MY ‘ACTIVITY’(WORK) WILL MAKE ME SUCH A JOY – UNIMAGINED POSSIBLE TO MANY TODAY, AND IN RETURN – MY SOCIETY WILL PROVIDE ME WITH: ‘FERRARI OF ALL TIMES (there will be a supercar – the same for everyone – what better could you want but the besT), THE VILA IN EVERY PART OF THE WORLD ACCORDING TO MY NATURAL NEEDS (NOT MARKETING- BRAIN-WASHED UP – STANDARDS), PARTNER – TOP MODEL OF MY NATURAL DESIRE – THANKS TO GENETIC OFFER-CHOICE(NOT THE SUPER ARTIFICIAL -FASHION WORLD AND ‘SKELETON – ALL DESIRED GIRLS’, CELEBRITIES AND PORN STARS), FOOD OF MY BODY NEEDS (not what you can ”afford”’ or desired), TRAVEL, LIFE TIME……. etc…

    All you need today to do is this: CRITICALLY JUDGE YOUR JOB, THE VALUE OF THE MONEY, the expression ‘What do you do for living’ – (do you, as the TOP ‘animal’- digital, electronic, scientific, consciousness kind on this planet still MUST WORK FOR LIVING??? – or you should WORK FOR JOY – YOUR IDEAL, NATURAL TALENTED JOB – and that our advanced, technological/digital CIVILIZATION MUST PROVIDE US WITH THE ‘LIVING’ for the sake of our living from the second we were born!!!!!),
    Criticize, observe and ‘build’ in yourself the DISGUST FOR MONETARY SYSTEM THAT EXIST WITH MARKET ECONOMY – THE ‘DINOSAUR’ SYSTEM – swallow everything for the sake of swallowing.
    Than – SPREAD YOUR STATE OF MIND TO OTHERS – WAKE EVERYONE – AND ORGANIZE/UNITE INTO A ”’POLITICAL”” MOVEMENT AND PARTY. “NEVER” EVER – FORGET = ONCE IN POWER – YOU ARE NOT A PRESIDENT, A LEADER, OR ANY SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL – YOU ARE JUST A ‘FOLLOWER’ AND TRUE HUMAN LIFE INITIATOR, JUST LIKE ALL OF US – (remember, my dear human fellow, THE POWER OF RULE IS ‘TRICKY’ CONDITION – ONCE IN POWER – even the strong minded humans fall to that test – LOOSE THEIR MIND – AND BECOME GREED. There fore, before going to elections – WE – the MOVEMENT OF HUMAN (the Zeitgeist movement) must write a SYSTEM RULES – applicable to ALL! The transfer of TODAY’S SOCIETY CAN BE POSSIBLE NOT WITH DRASTIC CHANGES, BUT REORGANIZATION OF EXISTING SYSTEMS – FIRST STEP: introduce the DIGITAL ‘payment’ methods (super-card digital system), SECOND: Gain and organize ‘bodies’ of socio-psychology groups to introduce methods into all human spheres FOR THE SEARCH AND DISCOVERY OF EVERYONE’S TALENT – and start creating the platform for RE-JOBBING THE ENTIRE POPULATION. Employ the MEDIA for the HUMAN KNOWLEDGE AND CONSCIOUSNESS SAKE (not for the sake of creating idiots, ever-hungry product ‘creatures’ of market-economy) etc… If you want the rest of methodology – what to do TODAY – please give yourself a thought, talk to others – or contact me – WE ALL HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE – AS A WHOLE, not an individual can know everything the best – WE MUST CREATE MECHANISM SYSTEMS THAT ALLOW US TO GROW, FAST GROW HUMANITY – and please – if you believe in GOD – KNOW THIS: GOD WANTS YOU ‘NOW’ TO ACT – GOD WANTS YOU TO AWAKE AND DO THIS FOR ‘HIM/HER/IT’! YOU ARE HIS SON/DAUGHTER – BUT GROWN MAN/WOMAN – IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, AS ‘MATERIAL INTELLIGENCE’ TO ACT AND PROGRESS this civilization to the NEXT STEP – otherwise, we shall be no more!!! (if a living kind prove to become useless, like Dinosauria, it shall be ‘removed’. We, humans in PROFIT SYSTEM DIFFER NO FROM DINOSAURS, therefore, let us became what we are – MINDED KIND, and not ’sheep leaded’ by few wolfs).
    I would be extreamly content if I made you thinking critically, and if you will contact me for any comment, my dear human fellow. rclint70@yahoo.com

  7. Ulise
    March 17th, 2010 at 16:36 | #7

    Happy to find you all. Same ideas in Romania. You can find our project in romanian, english, hungarian languages on our blog.
    http://pentru-venus.blogspot.com/

  8. pam_eliz
    March 21st, 2010 at 15:40 | #8

    A living being or person can not be put a price or tag on; and money all it does is to label the value of every person according to what labor that person performs; and that value is conditioned according to politics and corruption; we are all the same; money is the seed of slavery.

  9. piet
    April 7th, 2010 at 06:38 | #9

    down with the disempowering life-quality-chilling and alienating infrastructure, public treasure trapping, sapping and tapping ‘works’, all of it gives, takes, yields and claims the opposite of what direction should all be about, same applies to (the interpretation, execution and delivery of) ‘organization’ for that matter.

    Not dealing with your own shit has become the staple expression in all forms of criticism, counseling and therapy. As criterium for the immediation of life, composting pick (your own) up games within walking distance it is yet to be (re)claimed.

    All laboratories and transport to be replaced by Luther Burbank operations every 50 miles. Permaculture.

    http://barbedwiresmile.wordpress.com/2009/01/31/dialogues-with-the-venus-project-zeitgeist-movement/
    Jen replies to the 10th comment there, sheillustrates beautifully that naive idealism operates on a binary and gambles on the critical mass / hundreth monkey switchflip hypothesis to be and come true and through.

    It is the ineluctable and undeniable nature of youthful exuberance to experiment and latch onto a pretty picture, even those with so much dead space and the implied drudgery of janitorial artificiality in ‘m, glorified oil platforms are healthy? There will always be a market(demand) for this and more and more it will not reach beyond a picture as less and less space is left free and uncommodified, uncontested long enough for squatters to run with the long and toilsome process of legalizing their effort. Most crystallizing charisma is quite skewed (and screwed) from the getgo, eager exploitable participants take leads only to be led around by the nose and other organs, sometimes for decades. In the last 2 days i looked in to the fellowship of friends for instance. Pfiuwii.

    No doubt hands-on hippy colonies rapidly become and turn out lovely enough to be overrun by buyer outers and rapidly morph into top dollar resorts and since those top dollars are tied into the protection racket (why 2 genders but only one kind of money, should we not at least have half the money with weapons on ‘m and the other with lovely gardens .. as a gesture towards equality?).

  10. Dan Moore
    April 8th, 2010 at 18:43 | #10

    Mr.Fresco and myself seem to share alot of the same ideas on society and the way the world around us works. I am only 18 years of age and I find myself thinking about this subject quite often and have drawn the same conclusions as Mr.Fresco has. While I would like to talk about the thoughts of the world we share i am pressed for time so this comment is going to be based on the US gov. Money dose bring about much coruption along with seperating us into different “social classes” destroying our born human right to equality. I also agree with his views on democracy, it is just a large con game, they tell you that you are free so you beleive it. But when you take a closer look at our “Freedom” you see that we truly should not be using the word freedom to discribe it. We have very limited freedom even in the so called “Land of the Free”. we are forced to pay taxes: 1) Befor we get our pay from work they are already taken out, about a 1/4 of our pay, thats equivalent to working 3 months without getting paid. 2) Property that we have already paid for even though we are told that we “own” this property, that in itself is a con and is equivalent to not owning the property at all but instead being a custom appartment tenant. The war on terror that the US has entered would not be as important to the government if the large oil companies lobbying for it were not there, our military is being used more like a private army than a protective force. If I, an 18yr old male from the US, can see this then why cant the people in control of the US government see this? Or atleast admit that this is the case instead of lying to its citizens as they have made a habit out of.

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